tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8278366793340877738.post192747513892385589..comments2023-11-02T10:43:15.185+00:00Comments on DENVERSTROPE: Paxman-BrownUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8278366793340877738.post-83715721445250885992010-05-03T00:47:06.009+01:002010-05-03T00:47:06.009+01:00Now, as comments go on this blog, anon, (and they ...Now, as comments go on this blog, anon, (and they are pretty thin on the ground usually) that's one of the most rambling stream of claptrap I think I have had the misfortune of having to read.<br /><br />I'm not going to run through things again - you've obviously swallowed Brown-Labour's mindless, mendacious propaganda hook, line and sinker, even to the point that you feel the urge to repeat it, poorly.<br /><br />As I will say to all Labourists, especially Brown, on May 7th, I now say to you: "Goodbye. Don't come back."Jon Lishmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07272058035800593800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8278366793340877738.post-5449204796605730812010-05-01T22:30:38.486+01:002010-05-01T22:30:38.486+01:00everyone knows it will make precious little differ...everyone knows it will make precious little difference who wins the next election. I actually thought Brown's 'performance' with Paxo was commendable, given that we now appear to have to judge politicians on their media skills. The idea that Paxman deliberately let Brown hoist himself on his own petard is a nice fantasy, but actually Paxo became a weak parody of himself many years ago, just like Humphries. He thinks he's greater than his subjects, and assumes that his posture of weary disdain amounts to something profound. But the point is that the current economic crisis would have been not one iota less severe had the Conservatives been in charge - this is a crisis of global capitalism, the seeds of which were sowed with Thatcher, the 'big bang', neo-liberalism and all the rest of it (deregulation of the finance sector, de-industrialisation, de-nationalisation etc etc.). This is not a critique of Thatcherism and all that followed - in many ways they were needed. But the Tories are by defintion less-interventionist (economically as well as socially) than Labour. The Conservative's even more pronounced laissez-faire capitalism and surrender to market forces would in no way have averted the crisis. In short, each of the three main parties have bought into the same system, complete with its inevitable cycle of boom and bust: these 'differences' we are asked to choose between in the polling booth are in some cases not unimportant, but none of them have anything to do with the big picture. The long crisis of the Left has left it with no real answers to the crisis of capitalism; Cameron's civil society sounds jolly pleasant but will change nothing fundamental. What we probably need is an emergency 'war cabinet' at this time, not some illusory 'choice' on election day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8278366793340877738.post-74803310057248162822010-04-30T22:54:06.847+01:002010-04-30T22:54:06.847+01:00Top comment, tris. Enjoy the washing up ;)Top comment, tris. Enjoy the washing up ;)Jon Lishmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07272058035800593800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8278366793340877738.post-1984499187896413982010-04-30T22:53:20.868+01:002010-04-30T22:53:20.868+01:00John, I can see I might have lost this one given, ...John, I can see I might have lost this one given, as you say, Iain Guru Dale has called it differently.<br /><br />But, you know, I call it as I see it - and I found Brown's performance, well, totally appalling. Paxman's sudden change of tack, after having manipulated Brown so expertly and so closely to a position of fleeting self-realisation and honesty, was initially bewildering.<br /><br />I just tried to make some kind of sense of it, without being mean to the Pax, whom I have secretly admired for a long time in spite of his mysterious personal politics.<br /><br />However, I'd value your take on it enormously.<br /><br />And, of course, objectivity has not always been my strongest point when it comes to that Brown creature :DJon Lishmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07272058035800593800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8278366793340877738.post-60701158742926248402010-04-30T22:44:58.019+01:002010-04-30T22:44:58.019+01:00Brown was statesman-like you say Anon (no wonder y...Brown was statesman-like you say Anon (no wonder you fail to reveal your name ... for fear of ridicule no doubt). Well, if he was it must be the first time ever. I've never come across a less statesman-like figure than that fool.<br /><br />I imagine that the BBC bosses made it clear that they will have no truck with people making any more of an arse of Mr Brown than he does himself. Doubtless words were passed like contract and renewal and stuff like that.<br /><br />Didn't watch it. Got some dishes to wash. BTW the New Quiz on Radio 4 was excellent listening tonight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8278366793340877738.post-76549799273025959412010-04-30T22:40:08.874+01:002010-04-30T22:40:08.874+01:00I think Cogito Dexter had the right idea. Perhaps ...I think Cogito Dexter had the right idea. Perhaps Brown is really Gaius Baltar...<br /><br />Mind you, even Iain Dale thought Brown did well; so I must check this interview out for myself when it appears on iPlayer.John M Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06251285057595626917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8278366793340877738.post-26485687481937731842010-04-30T22:37:40.656+01:002010-04-30T22:37:40.656+01:00Tony: Ordinarily I'd recommend a bit more Sci-...Tony: Ordinarily I'd recommend a bit more Sci-Fi escapism on a Friday night, seeing as all the pubs are bankrupt and closed thanks to Labour. But this time - no, 'fraid not. Do watch it.<br /><br />I'd value a second opinion - especially yours :)Jon Lishmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07272058035800593800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8278366793340877738.post-12679493143510953522010-04-30T22:33:24.481+01:002010-04-30T22:33:24.481+01:00Lol @anon 1. A Labour troll. How touching. I must ...Lol @anon 1. A Labour troll. How touching. I must have nailed it!<br /><br />@anon 2: rofl (I think ;)Jon Lishmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07272058035800593800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8278366793340877738.post-9647897563526127632010-04-30T22:32:25.561+01:002010-04-30T22:32:25.561+01:00I was doing something more edifying... watching Ba...I was doing something more edifying... watching Battlestar Galactica on Blu-ray!<br /><br />Maybe I'll catch it on iPlayer.<br /><br />If I can summon up the interest in Brown any more...Cogito Dexterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13474929728659342255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8278366793340877738.post-20057510053217055672010-04-30T22:27:49.096+01:002010-04-30T22:27:49.096+01:00Narcissist but ever such an 'umble oneNarcissist but ever such an 'umble oneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8278366793340877738.post-76385063803457625872010-04-30T22:20:04.116+01:002010-04-30T22:20:04.116+01:00This critique is an absolute travesty of the truth...This critique is an absolute travesty of the truth of the Paxman-Brown interview. Brown was stastesman-like, reasoned,and very well-informed. I'm sure Paxman would agree.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com