Friday, 28 August 2009

Burry Port: Twinned With Tripoli

"Jaw-dropping", I suppose, is one way of describing this latest piece of Welsh Labourist nasty lunacy. I simply could not believe my pork pies when I read in the Western Mail what a Carmarthen councillor (and parliamentary hopeful, would you believe - not any more!) has been up to. Have a butchers:

WELSH Labour confirmed last night it was investigating a councillor and brass band chairman in connection with a “foul and abusive” phone message that has been posted on YouTube.

Carmarthen Labour councillor Marc Scaife, who has put his name forward for selection as the party’s parliamentary candidate in Carmarthen East & Dinefwr, left on Wednesday for a controversial tour of Libya with Burry Port Town Band.

The band have been criticised for continuing with the tour – part of the 40th anniversary celebrations of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi coming to power – after the release last week of the man convicted of the Lockerbie bombing.

In the phone message, a man who identifies himself as Marc Scaife, uses highly offensive language to berate a 19-year-old member of the band who pulled out of the Libyan tour at a late stage, creating a perceived security problem.

The caller is heard saying: “Listen very f****** carefully. You are a f****** idiot...There’s a massive security risk because of you. Do you realise what’s actually going on? Is anything going on in your tiny little mind?

“We are supposed to be playing in front of some of the biggest world leaders out there. Security is 100% tight and it includes the British Royal Family.

“I expect you to sort this f****** thing out. You go up there, you sort it out or expect a call from MI5. All right?

“I’ve had some serious explaining to do because of your irresponsible actions. Call me back as soon as you get this f****** message or I’ll be driving over to your parents’ house tonight to speak to them.

“Wise up, s***head.”

The band member who pulled out of the trip posted the audio tape of the phone call on YouTube. Subsequent messages on the site in the name of Mr Scaife said: “You forgot to tell everybody that you withdrew from the tour on Saturday with just four days to go, leaving us with a gap to fill. Your irresponsibility beggars belief. I’m surprised that you are happy to broadcast this fact.

“I don’t regret losing my temper with you – you deserved it. I stick to my opinions given in the recorded message. I suggest you listen to the actual words used and take note.

“I suspect you are going to get many similar confrontations from others in the future due to your ineptitude. I suggest you abandon your cry-baby ‘I’m just 19’ approach and act like a man – learn to act responsibly!”

The band member responds, saying: “I have not tried to adopt any cry-baby approach. I am merely pointing out that if I as a teenager can try to act in a mature and civilised manner to sort things out, there is something seriously wrong when a man over twice my age resorts to abusive and childlike rants. Indeed displaying your message on YouTube may be considered immature, but I am only trying to make people aware of the vile and foul attitude I have been dealing with.”

Explaining his position in another posting, the band member said: “I had to withdraw from the trip to Libya due to working commitments and the prospect of losing my job, something I was unwilling to risk in the current economic climate.

“I warned Marc Scaife this might be the case over a week ago and confirmed this on Friday. I have acknowledged the inconvenience this could cause and have been most apologetic.”

It is understood that the band member was one of a number of musicians recruited to go to Libya because long-standing members were unavailable.

A Welsh Labour spokesman said: “The party disassociates itself from the foul and abusive language used in this telephone message. We will be contacting Mr Scaife in order to verify the authenticity of the message and to seek an explanation for this situation.

“The matter concerned is not a Welsh Labour event over which the party has any control. This is not the behaviour we would expect of any elected representative of Welsh Labour.”

Mr Scaife had last night not responded to a detailed message left on his mobile phone by the Western Mail.

According to the Burry Port Town Band’s website, Mr Scaife is 41 and plays solo trombone. He has previously played with the Suffolk Fire Service, Colchester, Crwbin and Clacton brass bands. His occupation is listed as “real estate, Bulgaria”, although it is understood that he works as a relief chef.

Bad enough a Labourist brass band has flown out to Tripoli to "celebrate" Gaddafi's 40 year-long dictatorship (why?!). If nothing else, it's heroically bad timing. But to bully and verbally abuse a 19 year old just because he rightly dropped out after being threatened with unemployment is simply evil. And the reference to MI5 is just bizarre.

What kind of people are thugs like Scaife? I'll tell you: they're the kind of people who should be removed from office immediately. Scaife should not only be kicked-out, he should be told to stay put in Libya. Why not? If he, like so many other modern Labourists, feels such a strong affinity for tyrannical regimes, he should try living under one for a (long, long) while.

I just wonder what ideas he'll be bringing home with him, is all. Not healthy ones for him, given his proclivity for violent outbursts, or for anyone his council governs in sleepy old Burry Port, I would hazard. But don't take my word for it, listen to the voicemail yourself on the newspaper's website.


Btw, the Scaife person makes a fleeting appearance in this ITN report from two days ago. How would you like him as your future MP? Quite.


  1. Typical sanctimonious Lefty on camera,D, but even in those few seconds, from his demeanour, he comes across as a nasty piece of work.

  2. Too right, Spidey. And there are hundreds of his sort inhabiting the corridors of local council power in Camarthenshire and Glamorgan.

    If Wales had any genuine ambition in it, it would cast off these bastards without a single glance back over the shoulder at the "good old days" of real, Non-Conformist Welsh socialism.

    Fat chance. The rot's set too deep in this part of Labourland.

  3. Just a few thoughts
    1. the " Teenager" in question let the band down and with very little notice...
    2. flights , hotel , visa , passport translation had been paid for by the band
    3. look at it from the bands point of view , how would you react to having to explain about 1 less visa not being used.
    4. the " Teenager " had agreed to do the tour and had accepted an invitation , had sent his passport to the band , only to try and arrange to be collected from the embassy in London without the band finding out.
    5. what company would threaten a " teenager" with unemployment due to his previous commitment to a 10 day tour with a band?
    6.having listened to the recording , at what point is the Labour party or any political affiliation made as a point of arguement?
    7. the "teenager" not a cry baby....not only did he record the message , find a picture of marc scaife , set up and record it to a video file and then publish it , then send it to the Western Mail to try and cause the maximum amount of flak towards the band .
    all seems a malicious to me..
    Looks like some bitter people here , a bit miffed they were not asked to take part on the tour???
    I have no affiliation to the labour party , marc scaife or burry port band..just adding a point to your biased blog.
    sad little people with nothing better to do than snipe at others.

  4. Well, "Anonymous", you're points, all of them, even if they were pertinent in the first place (which they patently were not) are rendered completely irrelevant by the fact that Scaife has apologised (sort of) for his appalling behaviour. Check your facts.

    If there was a campaign against Scaife, then I'm not surprised. He clearly has made a lot of enemies. On this one thing, I condemn his actions utterly, just as I condemn his party utterly.

    What is sad is that you felt the need to post such a ridiculous comment on a blog that is intended to serve one purpose: to accelerate the departure of this Labour government - in Wales as much as anywhere else. Biased indeed, then. A bit like your baffling - and rather dishonest, I suspect - remarks. Only difference is, I'm honest about my "bias". You're not.

    "I have no affiliation to the labour party , marc scaife or burry port band..just adding a point to your biased blog."

    Yeah, right.

  5. Incidentally, anon, your "few thoughts" also seem to seek to apologise for some seriously threatening behaviour from a public servant. I'd like to know why you would be moved to do that.

    Explain yourself!

  6. I think you will find , if you can be bothered to check all the points raised above by Anon they are all true..
    anon :)

  7. More disingenuous nonsense from another "anon".

    Jesus wept.

  8. I don't think Jesus will be able to help you with your spin Denverthen....
    sorry did I see you on the tour of
    do you have the facts from both
    thanks for playing..

  9. Lol. I think that's the end of this thread.

    And we will know who the "winner" is when Scaife is rightly kicked off the local council at the next elections. It will be more than he deserves, in spite of all this "anonymous" support he seems to get.

    Pathetic bullies who aren't fit to hold public office generally get found out in the end. Chef and 'property developer' Scaife is one of those people. Carmarthen and Burry Port will be well shot of him - and I'll do my level best from no on to make sure it happens. That's a promise.

  10. I do like your style Deventhen..In fact am sure we could talk for hours over a nice cold pint of Felin Foel..I am sure the people of south west Wales can sleep soundly at night knowing that you are there as public mouthpiece and that you will be doing your level best from no on ( Is that a typo by the way , should it read " and I'll do my level best from now on to make sure it happens , that's a promise" ). Blimey I am glad I haven't done anything to upset you , I am shaking just at the thought...
    with love as always

  11. Lol. Sarcy. I can feel the quaking from here!


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