Friday, 26 June 2009

Labour Will Lose Norwich North

According to the latest ICM poll in the constituency of former left wing Labour MP and super trougher, Ian Gibson, the Tories are going to take it comfortably. Obsessive psephologist, Mike Smithson, at his mega political betting website, makes some crucial observations about the numbers.
CON 34 (+1) LAB 30 (-15) LD 15 (-1) GRN 14 (+11)

The above ICM poll with variations on what happened at the last election was commissioned by Norwich’s University & College Union and has just been published. The sample was just 500 which means a much higher margin of error must be applied.

As can be seen the figures are broadly in line with current national polling and, indeed, it would be a huge surprise if the Tories failed to take the seat from Labour with a thumping majority.

The Tory margin in the survey would have been double the 4% but for ICM’s standard practice of realloctating half of those who say they will vote but don’t know which way in accordance with what they did at the last general election.

Clearly the campaign has not started and there is not that much awareness in the seat that a by election will soon by happening. A total of 18% of local voters had no idea that there was an election coming up.

No doubt the main contenders are working on the postal votes right now. Let us hope that afterwards the marked register for this election is not “lost” - something that happened after the last by election at Glenrothes last November.

It is worth pointing out, however, that beyond all these qualifications, there are some wider implications for Labour. Tories polling 34-38% in this previously safe Labour seat would not be spectacular, but it would be enough. I think they will poll more - in the 38-42% area, simply because of the 'Crewe factor'. Labour have forgotten how to campaign (you can guarantee they will opt for the 'keep the hated toffs out' option once again), have no money and can't recruit enough foot soldiers. Whatever message they manage to get across will so garbled, it will be politically unintelligible.

But the chief reason why Labour are heading for whopping defeat in Norwich is because of, you guessed it, Gordon "Getting On With The Job" Brown. People, in England at least, really do hate him now. He's managed to alienate just about everyone with his constant lies and spin and his wrongheaded, stubborn inability to change his tune. The 'hate the Tory toff' line, make no mistake, comes from him. It doesn't work, but he doesn't believe that.

The swing to the Tories in this seat could be as much as 16% - or more once the campaigning kicks in. Another epic defeat for Labour which should send shockwaves right through the party, then. But will it? Parliamentary Labour appears to be so collectively spineless that they backed the losing horse, just for a quiet few extra months in post, presumably.

If they do not remove him this autumn, I would say that they will have doomed themselves to the biggest defeat in their history, fake economic recovery or not. Whether the Tories benefit with a landslide or not is an entirely separate issue - it looks now as though they will not. What Labour should realise now is that, thanks to their nightmarish performance in office and the disaster that is Brown, they aren't just heading for defeat, they are heading for annihilation and third-party status as millions desert them for other parties, including a significant portion of their core vote in England and Wales.

But they've already had fair warning about Brown with the local and Euro catastrophes, so I suspect a heavy Norwich North defeat will be just one more unheeded nuclear air raid siren. This behaviour can only be described as nihilistic. If so, then such obscene political self-indulgence deserves to be rewarded with biblical disaster, as it probably will be.


  1. I have a strong feeling that the current theory regarding Mandelson's skullduggery is probably right; i.e. he keeps brown in place just long enough,(to avoid a general election), for the Irish to deliver the "correct" result in their referendum rerun and the damned Lisbon Treaty is ratified. We all know that plunging Britain headlong into a Federal EU is Mandy's mission in life - then he can use his dark arts to get his malleable pal Bliar installed as President, God help us!

  2. Jesus Christ! (or should that now be 'Michael Jackson!'), I hope this isn't true, Spider. If it is, though, and if the Tories don't give us the referendum regardless of the Mandelsonian, Trotsky-ish world socialism, anti-democratic EU conspiracy, I will never bloody forgive them.

    They'd better get their policy straight on this.

    For one thing, an unconditional referendum guarantee in their manifesto = landslide victory, regardless of that fat degenerate slob, Ken Clarke's Euro-fetish.

    Don't they know that?

  3. What a damned horrible thought - made all the worse by being such a good fit with the evidence.

    Still, all eyes on this by-election, and best of luck to the Tory candidate!

    The Tories seem to have kind-of settled on not having a yes/no referendum if the Lisbon Constitution is ratified by the time they, hopefully, get in but I wonder why they haven't suggested a more/less referendum (not ideal) in that case? The advantage being that they might be able to pick up some useful votes from UKIP and a "less" vote would stand in stated opposition to, heaven forbid, any future Labour government that wanted us all to step into the EU's fly infested teleporation pods.

    I suppose we deserve to be pampered a little after all that we've been through, but annihilation, could life really be so sweet? Let's hope so! Or better yet, only the worst Labour trolls survive in the safest seats so their party is polluted for decades by shrill, clueless zombies. Imagine "An Opposition of all the Blears'" - how fucked up would that be =)

    Found this linked from Guido. Haven't read enough of Brogan to have sense of where he's usually coming from but it sounds like Dave has an unprecedented opportunity to shape things as he would like.

  4. Suberb comment (as always), BHS. It's a bit disconcerting when certain reader responses are way, way better than the original article, especially if you're the original article's writer! I'll have to try to 'up my game'. Oh dear.

    Anyway, Brogan: from what I've read over the years, he seems to me to be a bit of a semi-aligned, WMV shit-stirrer.

    But apart from that, he really is a bloody good journo. One of the best around. You can bet your bottom dollar he was brought back to the DT to broker the expenses CD deal - or at the very least to oversee the research and the coverage.

    In other words, the story about the Cameron purge of the Tory landed gentry is almost certainly true. If Cameron is serious about creating a genuine party of the aspirational, 'middle' classes, then he's decided to complete the Thatcher internal revolution and he has my total support.

    From what I've seen of Cameron recently, I'm starting to think he's finally located his raison d'etre. It was right next to the servants' quarters all the time. (No, I've no idea what that means but it sounded witty so I writ it anyhoo).

    Er, time for bed.

  5. No way Mr Den, you're supplying the framework and prompting the thoughts - Mr Spider and other commenters too. It's my game that's been upped in light of being presented with such choice material to mull over.

    Don't have a record of all the comments I've posted at different places over the years, but it would show that I've never put as much effort into being constructive as I have here - style of thinking very strongly influenced by environment, credit to you.

    Dig the nuclear air raid siren reference - quite chilling - followed by tracks in the sky pointing at Labour seats.

    Ahhh, what a satisfying thought - Go Dave!


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